Andrew Huberman

Right.

And on minimal sleep, et cetera, et cetera.

And here are two guys challenging each other to spend less time on social media.

accomplish it by virtue of competition.

Okay, cool.

And then you say revert.

What does that say?

Not about seals.

What does that say about the platforms?

Because I mean, think about the rest of the world.

Okay, I have to drill into this.

This is not where I thought we would go first, but it gets right to the heart of discipline and self-control versus influence and time, and time is everything.

When you are on a social media platform and you're scrolling away, are you aware of the time that's drifting away from you?

Yes.

Are you thinking, why am I doing this, but I feel compelled to do it?

Or are you oblivious?

Is it like being drunk where you don't, you're not thinking about the fact that you shouldn't be doing it until you sober up?

Not for hours.

The brain is wired to identify those outliers.

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