Andrew Huberman

Deeply relaxed state.

So autonomic tone is very parasympathetic, but alert enough to observe the self.

So this is an unusual state, right?

Because I normally think about the autonomic nervous system like a seesaw, parasympathetic, sympathetic.

So alert, stressed, panic, or asleep, coma.

You know, and it's going back and forth the entire time we're alive.

But what we're talking about here is a weird kind of bending of the seesaw where we're both very relaxed and very alert.

And in that state, the brain is more available for instruction, for editing.

Many people, I think, use psychedelics trying to achieve this state.

That's one avenue.

I think it would be amazing if there were more faster entry points.

12 years is a long time.

I hear that.

Other people hear that like, oh, shit, you know, that's a lot of meditating before I get where I want to be.

But do you think that there's opportunity for Nidra and, excuse me, Shinya, the void meditation to be valuable in the short term as well?

This is one of the 112th technique.

It's just that technique.

I have to say, I don't want to interrupt your flow, but I just have to say, because I'm feeling it.

I'm not saying this to make you feel good, but if it does, great.

I mean, you're one of the more intellectually supple people I've ever encountered.