Andrew Huberman

So spiking adrenaline is the opportunity to create plasticity.

Turns out so is spiking dopamine.

So is spiking acetylcholine.

Turns out that there's this kind of...

equality to all the neuromodulators.

If you can create a high amount of arousal or an unusual state, you can modify the brain for some period of time.

I feel like what was never thought about until recently is that when we scroll social media or we are on the internet, we're getting pulsed.

Like you said earlier, we're getting pulsed with...

typically norepinephrine, epinephrine, right?

And so it makes perfect sense that the plasticity is both for what we're observing, but also for the action of scrolling and going through the wheel of experience that you described earlier, the puppy, the explosion, the political thing, the opportunity to make money, the relationship thing, and then repeat.

And surely the platforms knew this.

And I don't think they're diabolical in the sense that they wanted to harm humanity.

I don't.

I think that they are businesses and they want to make money.

They want to drive engagement.

I know some of the founders and owners of these companies and platforms well, and I think they are benevolent people.

behind that so what do you recommend for young men and women or older men and women around two things around social media use ai use and we have to talk about pornography okay so let's talk about social media use do you believe that people should have prescriptions of amount of time types of interactions they have or won't have

I realize it's hard to create a blanket statement there.

We're definitely gonna have to have you back.

Like the hour before bed.