Andrew Huberman

But it gets to this...

thing that I had written down because I want to ask about next, which is this notion of texting in particular.

So not even apps, but let's just say it's migrated off app or people meet, they exchange number and there's some texting, right?

And this notion of the kind of unique advantage, at least early on,

that I think can be somewhat misleading of people who are hyperverbal.

Oh, interesting.

And in particular among men.

And so here's what, I think years ago when I was on the job market for academic science, a really fantastic neurobiologist who actually ran, let's just say a very famous school in Boston's brain science center.

Okay.

They never admit the name of their school anyway.

said to me, he said, you know, the worst part about the job search process in neuroscience is that it selects for hyperverbal people where people can present their data, excite people about it, present their vision.

And he said, and there's so many amazing scientists that just don't know how to communicate their data.

And we're selecting for someone who can also teach, who can also do these things.

And I realized he's absolutely right, you know, and some people can overcome this, but some of the best scientists in the world, speaking isn't their forte.

Yeah.

Okay.

So in the realm of text communication, there's a kind of a bias toward, can somebody, like a good listener in a face-to-face interaction, like a guy can just sit there and listen, right?

not interrupt, nod, maybe reflect, maybe reflect, tell me more, well, that must have been interesting, hard, whatever, you know, and can convey a lot of genuine ability to communicate and bond.

over text, just listening doesn't work.

In fact, if it's just like, wow, that must've been hard to like a paragraph this long, like it starts to fall flat.