Andrew Jarecki

his way.

And he tells you so many facts that are true that when he occasionally lies about really critical things, I think a lot of people just didn't pay attention to that.

I did because I had already researched the story.

So I knew when he was trying to tell me something that was bullshit that it was bullshit.

But I did have to put myself in a position of

of giving him the benefit of the doubt whenever I could.

Partly because that was the only, you gotta just get into that mode where you're trying to hear his version without debating it the whole time.

Because otherwise he's not gonna tell you his version and you wanna hear his theory about all this stuff.

And in the course of that,

he really indicts himself.

I mean, you know, he sort of came into it with the attitude that he wanted to tell his version of the story so people would stop thinking he was a murderer.

But during the course of it, he admits to so many bad things that, you know, you just pretty quickly assume that he is guilty.

I guess he was in his early 70s.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I do think there was a I think he had a compulsion to confess.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, and that ultimately what happened with him, as you as you may remember, is he we find this evidence.

The evidence I thought was determinative.