Andrew Jarecki

That was seven years ago.

And I think it's the reason that line was the reason I went back because I just thought, well, whatever this is, I have to see.

And then I went back and you'll see in the film, we sort of get access until we don't.

But in the course of going into Easterling prison, we start hearing from these men who are saying, look, this visit you're making here, I'm not supposed to be talking to you, but

This is a curated visit, right?

They're showing you just what they want you to see.

But see that building over there?

That's where they do solitary confinement.

They're men that have been in there for five years or seven years at a time, seeing nobody.

And see that building over there is the Y dorm.

That's the behavior modification dorm.

And somebody was just killed there by a guard.

And we just started to understand how bad it was.

And then last year,

thing that happened is, you know, we get kicked out.

And then we thought we didn't know how we're going to tell the story until we discovered that there was this network of people inside who had contraband cell phones and had access to a charger or were borrowing a charger from a friend and would have to put the cell phones up when the guards came.

But it was our only window into this very secretive system.

I mean, I don't know of it having been done before because it was such an unusual situation, not only because the men had access to cell phones, but because they had collected all this material over years that showed what was really happening in the system and showed episodes of, you know, really shocking episodes.

I mean, when I saw it, I thought, you know, this is like watching Tiddick at Follies.

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