Andrew Jarecki

I don't want to hear anybody.

I don't want to hear experts.

We had this Zach Stewart-Ponte, who was my partner in Making the Jinx, who's sitting here right there.

He and I talked a lot about experts when we were Making the Jinx.

you know, we had access to the people that were in Bob Durst's life, and we had access to people that were present during crimes and helpful in crimes and so on.

And so it just was every time we'd interview somebody, we'd say, well, let me tell you how this works or something.

It just wasn't very effective.

And in this case, it would have been absurd.

You know, we wanted to talk to some of the system actors, so we ended up getting access to, like, the attorney general, who's an incredible...

cinematic villain.

And by the way, I, I particularly enjoyed and, and my mind was a little bit blown by hearing Steve Marshall, the attorney general in your podcast.

Um, but,

you know, speaking as the convincingly, right.

As the authority who's explaining how, you know, he's there for crime victims and they've waited 35 years for justice and all that stuff.

And this is a guy who's presiding over death camps in an American state.

But he was something, he was somebody that had to be there.

Well, we didn't know what we were making.

We never know what we're making, right?

And sometimes today, I think in documentary world, you know, somebody, some streamer or something will send you like an email saying like, you know, you need to make this film.

And I almost never open them.