Andrew Jarecki

And that's just in one system.

We have 2 million people incarcerated around the country.

But I do get the feeling that, you know, while we're walking around thinking we're making a film, the men inside are dying.

driven by their own brilliance, their own survival instinct, are saying, we need to get this material in front of the public.

We're not a position to do it.

Let's see if this collaboration can work.

And that, I think, is the thing I feel the most grateful for, is that we were able to deliver that.

And the men in the film have seen the film, you know, because we showed it to them on cell phones.

And when we were done...

I think they were very emotional seeing it.

I think we spent so much time and showed it to them, talked to them about what we were making because it's such a responsibility to say, hey, you guys, you've been running a nonviolent,

organized protest movement that includes work stoppages and hunger strikes.

And somehow we're going to characterize that and we're going to put that on television or we're going to put that in movie theaters.

But it's really their story.

So you have to be in constant dialogue with them about what that is, including now, you know, telling them what we're doing and what we're thinking and trying to, you know, we created this sort of whistleblower defense committee of really smart lawyers because we knew that

These men have been retaliated against time after time after time.

And so they jump in and they'll go and do wellness checks on the men.

You're in a relationship with them forever.

You know, it's a little different, right?

Because in your, I mean, maybe you'll choose to go and have coffee with Steve Marshall once a week if you really enjoy his company.