Andrew Jarecki

But, you know, most of the people that are in your film are kind of already...

you know, you're not going back to Alabama much and you're not going to go talk to the, to the people that are in the story.

But these guys are like, they're in my life happily.

I feel very lucky that they're in my life and Charlotte's life.

Yeah.

Really appreciate it.

I considered doing that, but I was actually just too busy with the Alabama thing.

But I'm going to try to go back for part two.

I mean, I knew that there were problems in the Alabama state prison system.

I knew that I wasn't going to be able to get in there because it's such a secretive system, as a lot of prisons are in the US.

And then we sort of miraculously got access to one of the prisons to go in and film a revival meeting.

And we saw this kind of beautiful meeting, but the understory was that there were really terrible things happening in the prison.

And the men inside said to us,

the stuff they're showing you here is not real.

This is curated.

You need to know what's going on in that building over there.

You need to know what's going on in that bunker over there.

And then when we sort of got kicked out, which you see in the beginning of the film, because we got too nosy, we discovered that there were these men inside who had contraband cell phones.

and were incredible leaders and had been running sort of a nonviolent protest effort to try to get the word out.

And so we began a collaboration with them, in a way, and it really ended up being this, like, seven-year journey.