Andrew Marantz
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381 appearances
4 recordings
3 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 10 Apr
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My guess is that what he's trying to show is kind of modeling a... I'm not afraid. I can swim into uncharted waters. I think people like Newsom are guessing that they'll fare better if they are willing to go out and engage and show that they're not afraid. And I mean, this is something that I heard from multiple people in the piece.
Just the idea of showing up and holding your own and humanizing yourself in many instances is almost more important than what you say, at least to a certain type of voter.
Yeah, so just to start from defining terms. So manosphere is, like a lot of internet terms, pretty ill-defined, and it keeps changing. So often, originally, when people used the term, it was for really, really extreme, hateful stuff, right? So it was for... Andrew Tate, who is a proud misogynist, defines himself that way, has been accused of human trafficking. Really, really, really bad dude.
And so often when people talked about the manosphere, they would talk about that. But then it kind of migrated into people who are, you know, conservatives on gender roles or who don't even have like gender content. that they often bring up, but maybe are just into things that are commonly coded as dude stuff, you know, video games or hunting or, you know, lifting weights or whatever.
So all of that is kind of depending on who you're listening to, contained within that category. And there's no reason that the right has a monopoly inherently on being down to earth or being relatable. You know, it's been mentioned many times that people like Bernie Sanders have no problem going onto these shows and, in fact, have been criticized for going onto these shows.
So it's a bit of a caricature, but it's definitely one that's stuck. And I think we can now see in the data it's definitely one that hurt Kamala Harris in the last election.
Absolutely. And Joe Rogan has been around since he was, you know, telling people to eat worms on Fear Factor. And so and I think you nailed it with the word trust and authenticity. I mean, a lot of times and I think this is true for everyone, but I think it's especially true of listeners who don't think of themselves as political people.
People who I think are sometimes pejoratively called low information voters, but people who just don't think it's their job to study up on the ins and outs of politics. often what it comes down to is who do you trust? And so you hear a lot of conflicting, competing information.
You know, you hear one source telling you Doge is just a scam and it's just, you know, a way for Elon Musk to enrich himself. And then you hear Joe Rogan or Elon Musk or Theo Vaughn saying, I don't know, it seems cool to me. You know, we're cutting waste from the government. And if you don't want to embark on the
really difficult project of sifting through the conflicting evidence, you can just trust one source and not the other. So you mentioned Theo Vaughn. To my mind, he is a funny, really affable, kind of goofy guy. He presents himself as basically so curious that he almost seems to see it as his job to go in with no prior information into any conversation. And
You can hear him from one week to the next. I mean, he, within the span of a week last summer, interviewed Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. And with each of these interviews, his stance is to kind of just sit back and go, oh, well, that's interesting. I never heard of that before.
He kind of copied this format from Rogan where when something new comes up that they don't know about, they have a production assistant or an intern or someone kind of sitting in the studio and they'll go, oh, could you pull that up?
Yes, very much. It's a dorm room kind of sitting around at a diner kind of conversation. They are a proxy for the audience who may or may not know all the proper nouns. And so they'll just Google it for you in real time. And often that's why it takes two or three or four hours because they're really not in a hurry.
You know, I believe he said he wanted to speak to her. And they were kind of still negotiating the details and then it ended up not happening. There are many people who – I mean sort of should Kamala have gone on Rogan was one of the main Monday morning quarterback topics after she lost the election.
And there are people who said she would have been great on Rogan because he wouldn't have asked her tough questions. He's not generally a very tough interviewer. There are other people who said she might have had a tougher time because – She is more of a kind of buttoned up politician than Trump is certainly.
Actually, Joe Rogan was talking to Theo Vaughn on his podcast and he said, he sort of crystallized this. He said, look, man, I didn't want to ask her about policy. I just wanted to get her in a room, get her talking for a couple hours. And I feel like if you start talking for that long, I'll just start to see if your mind is calculated or if you're just free.
And so that seems to be for people like Rogan and Theo Vaughn, and I think for a lot of their listeners and for a lot of potential voters, that seems to be like the main criterion. Are you calculated or are you just free?
Definitely. And it did not used to be the case. Liberals used to be the counterculture. They used to be the upstarts. And liberals now have become defenders of norms and institutions. But it's now the case in the data and in the perceptions as well that the base of the democratic vote is the educated vote.
And if you're a working class voter, you know, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, et cetera, you're starting to see in the numbers that people do not feel as at home in the democratic party. It's still not obviously across the board and the Democrats still win a majority of votes of people of color and women and all these things. But
It's clear that the Democrats have lost this connection to being unassailably the party of the working class. And... Sometimes that has to do with policy and raising the minimum wage. And sometimes it just has to do with a vibe of feeling snobby or feeling like you're always being second guessed or you're always being fact checked.
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