Andrew Marantz

But because the stakes are presented as being so high, like literal existential, I mean people talk about it as who will win the AGI dictatorship.

People talk about it as who will get the golden ring, who will get the ring of Sauron.

So I think they just think –

If you're Sam Altman or Dario Amadei or Elon Musk, I think in their minds, it's like anything is worth doing to win that competition because it is totally existential.

It's a sci-fi-ish thing that basically means capturing all the economic value in the solar system.

So it involves space colonization usually.

Super abundance.

So some of it is the Keynesian thing of like in the future we'll all have lives of leisure and we won't have to work.

But you can see how this stuff – Too late for me.

And also you see, I mean, Ronan, you brought up his blog posts.

Just to talk about the shifting pitch over time, you know, people call him this great pitch man.

The blog posts now are very bullish, optimistic.

We're going to cure cancer.

You go back two or three years and the blog posts say we need to solve alignment or we will have a rogue AI that stamps out humanity.

So the alignment problem is supposed to be if we build a super intelligence that is not aligned with our interest, it might.

So it doesn't have to come alive and become Hal 9000 or whatever to kill us.

We quote a blog post in the piece of someone saying, all it has to do is, you know, be misaligned with our interests and accidentally kill us.

And the person who wrote that blog post was Sam Altman.

Yeah.

So for a long time, he donated to Democrats and he said Trump is this unacceptable threat to America.