Andrew McCarthy

And I was consulting that the whole way.

And I was interested in the places in between.

I was interested in small.

And I hate highway driving.

I'm terrified of trucks.

So I just was like, I rode back roads the whole way.

And that's where you meet people.

Well, I don't think it's just male, but men in particular.

Loneliness, I think, is this massive...

And, you know, I looked at that a lot in the book.

And it was interesting because all the, so I would, as I was going and I'm reuniting with my friends along the way, I also just stopped and was, you know, encountering men in gas stations and cafes or wherever I was and just sort of would accost them and say, would you talk to me about your friends?

And invariably they looked at me like I was nuts.

But all of them said yes.

No one said no to me.

And so it was fascinating to get all these different perspectives on friendship.

And I did encounter a ton of loneliness.

And it was interesting because young people were very easy and quick to say, I'd say, you know, and I asked everyone, I said, are you lonely?

Do you get lonely?

And the young people just go, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, I get lonely a lot.

But older people