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Andrew Milgram

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

The NCUA wanted to make sure that the way we were going to deal with the borrowers in the space respected the dignity of the borrower, that we were not going to be rapacious.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

All of these loans had personal guarantees.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And so drivers who had levered up to buy a taxi medallion

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

had really at risk their home, their livelihood, everything.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And the NCUA understood that we needed to be commercial, but also wanted to make sure that we weren't gonna be abusive to the borrowers.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And so they spent a lot of time understanding how we were dealing with problems.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Now, a part of the story I left out earlier is that we ended up with 4,500 individual line items in this portfolio.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Prosecuting that is just a huge lift.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

You have to send out bills every month.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

You have to collect.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

You have to call people when they don't pay.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

So there's a servicing aspect to this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

We went to speak to virtually every servicer out there about could they help us?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

And the answer for 97% of them was absolutely not.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

We want nothing to do with this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

politically sensitive, tough space, tough borrowers.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Borrowers will spend two, three months out of the country, typically going back to their home to spend time with family.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

Just a setup that a lot of servicers didn't want to take on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

The servicers who were even willing to have the conversation, which there were only a couple, their pricing was self-extractive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]

There was no way we could do a deal.