Andrew Phan

One and a half.

And the rest, they're joining and they're leaving depending on their lot of other projects.

We have somewhere near 55 people and maybe 85% of them are developers.

The rest are involved in the creations.

Not a lot of money, but it's enough to pay the bills.

No, other applications, they are also generating some money, but basically we are doing consulting for bigger companies.

This is how we earn money.

So our main business

Right now, it's a consulting business.

Everything depends on the complexity, but I would say that the entry amount should be somewhere near $25,000.

I see, I see.

I launched it in 2012.

So it's kind of like 10 years ago.

I'm 34.

Yeah.

Never worked on someone except my clients for an agency or for my... That's awesome.

Um...

There are a few good options for us.

For our consulting business, we're currently looking at a model called Venture Studio.

Basically, we mostly work with entrepreneurs, helping them to launch the first version of their product and help them scale it to multiple stages of fundraising.