Andrew Prokop
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard 15 Sep
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Instead of just rolling it back, it should be replaced with a new government policy saying that basically you can't have an affirmative action program. That such programs were illegal because they discriminated based on race, that they violated the Civil Rights Act. So, you know, when that executive order came out from Trump, I immediately thought this
These are people who have been reading the Richard Hananias, the online right posters who have had their own obsessions and who have been driving these ideas. And the people in power are really listening to them and trying to impose their ideas to reshape this country.
That was Vox's Andrew Prokop. Coming up next. But it sounds like based on what you're saying that you are able to take credit for killing DEI. Is that how you see it?
Richard Hanania is a substacker and author of the book The Origins of Woke, Civil Rights Law, Corporate America, and the Triumph of Identity Politics. All right, so Richard, in the summer of 2023, you were a public intellectual. You'd been writing op-eds for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic.
And then that August, The Huffington Post reported that years earlier, you'd written racist, misogynist posts on right-wing websites. I'm going to read a couple of those here. For the white gene pool to be created, millions had to die. Race mixing is like destroying a unique species or a piece of art. It's shameful.
Hispanic people don't have the requisite IQ to be a productive part of a first world nation. You said Muslims can't assimilate because of genetic and IQ differences between them and native Europeans. And you suggested that people with low IQs might be sterilized. Were those sincere beliefs that you held?
What led to you holding those views?
In November of 2023, so this is after the Huffington Post exposed you, you tweeted, people complain about Jews running America. Do they actually believe it should be run by the voters of Baltimore or Appalachia? Doesn't seem that anti-Semites have thought this through. So that was years after, you know, that's years after you were young.
It's after the Huffington Post has drawn attention to the really disgusting stuff that you tweeted.
By the summer of 2023, you had built a broad audience in both mainstream media and also on Twitter and Substack. What was the thrust of your main argument?
When did it become clear to you that this argument that you were making was resonating?
What was the goal of ending 11246? What did you want to happen?
Richard, was corporate America actually complaining? Because it seems like if you run a big American corporation, I don't know, I would look at the idea of diversity and I would say, oh, this is a good thing because I want to sell things to American people. And therefore, having people within the company at a very high level who understand how to sell things to American people is a great thing.
Good if they come from all kinds of backgrounds. Like, I just wonder, whose part were you taking here?
So the day President Trump puts an end to DEI, the day he puts an end to the executive order, what was your reaction?
The Trump administration did what you wanted. It eliminated DEI. And then it put Pete Hegseth in charge of the Pentagon and Kash Patel in charge of the FBI and Dan Bongino as the deputy director of the FBI. These gentlemen are not merit picks. And these are obvious examples. But this is why Americans... who are skeptical of your argument will say, look, you're never really going to get merit.
If we eliminate DEI, we're going to go back to, you know, the president picks a guy who he thinks looks handsome on TV. Do you put any stock in that argument?
You've clearly become disenchanted with MAGA. You wrote a piece this week that's making the rounds. It's called Liberals Only Censor Musk Seeks to Lobotomize. What happened, Richard?
How do you feel about this movement that you are a part of descending into what we have today?
Richard Hanania. The book is The Origins of Woke. He's also on Substack and he is still on Twitter. Dropping in our feed on Sunday, some of you called to ask whether DEI was ever anything more than performance. Our new weekend show is going to give you some answers. Miles Bryan produced today's episode with an assist from Carla Javier. Amina El-Sadi is our editor.
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