Andrew Revkin

You need redundancy or efficiency.

or a variety of options, right?

Which is not what corporate companies think about, which is not what, if you're only focused on a bottom line, short-term timeline, those disruptions are not what you're thinking about.

You're still thinking about, can we get that widget here just in time for this thing to happen?

And then on we go.

So it's kind of, I love the noosphere, this noosphere idea.

The connectedness is fantastic.

Oh, another thing, like in the early 90s,

When I wrote my first book on global warming, it was for an exhibition at the Museum of Natural History.

The Environmental Defense Fund was involved.

They were like a partner, one of these longstanding environmental groups.

And they were very old-fashioned.

It was mostly lawyers, really, just using the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act to litigate against pollution.

And now, EDF is vastly bigger.

And they're actually, this coming year, they're launching a satellite, an environmental group

is launching MethaneSat, and it's providing a view, an independent view of where there's this gas.

It's the same thing, natural gas is basically methane.

So if you have a leak, whether it's in Siberia or in Oklahoma, you can cross-reference, you can ground, you can identify the hotspot, you can,

know where the problem is to fix in so many ways.

And that's just one example.