Andrew Revkin

And then the climate problem, the prismatic giant nature of it, is what makes it...

It's so daunting, but it's also what gives everybody an opportunity.

Like there's something for artists, scientists, poets, everybody needs to get into the game.

I just spent some time with Kim Stanley Robinson, who wrote that book, Ministry of the Future, which is this sprawling novel about a worst case outcome where everyone in India is dying.

And, you know, so fiction can help experiment, different kinds of fiction, different kinds of arts can help us sort of experiment with what the future might look like in different ways.

And

Just get started.

And the other thing, unfortunately, that's needed, I think I first said this in 2008 when someone asked me something about climate.

I said, weirdly, you have to sort of have a sense of urgency, but a sense of patience at the same time.

Just roll those words around in your mind.

What does that mean?

Urgent and patient.

How could that possibly be?

But actually, it really is the reality.

There is an urgency with this building gas that's cumulative, that doesn't go away like smoke when it rains.

And every year that happens, it's adding to risk.

And you can kind of wake up completely freaked out urgent.

But when you realize energy transitions take time, then you have to sort of find patience or whatever your word is for that.

Yes, sir.

There was a hashtag generated maybe seven years ago by a Caltech PhD candidate woman who,