Andrew Rose (US)
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And when you hear this term, the gnawing hunger from Appalachia, that's what it felt like. It felt like something was trying to eat me from the inside out. That disconcerting feeling after four or five days, you're desperate. You're going to do a whole lot of things.
So, you know, if anything comes out of this, I do hope cybersecurity community and the regulatory community understands how important food is to us as a species. And if we're not learning lessons from the war in Ukraine, Russia is going to take out electricity in the winter. So you freeze to death and you take out the food in the summer. So you starve to death.
If we're not thinking that we're moving into wartime footing and agriculture is not in the crosshairs, shame on us because I guarantee your adversaries are well underway to whatever planning there is out there. So hopefully this podcast will put a few red flags in the poll as well.
Well, I've got my opinions. I'll jump in here. So first of all, if we take a look at the entire globe, who produces more than they consume? Which countries are those? And typically you're looking at the US, Australia, and Brazil. And when the world is going into a food insecurity situation, the first thing you're gonna do is take care of your own population. I mean, that's just normal.
If there is excess, we want to take care of our allies as well. Here in the US, we certainly have a geographic advantage of having moats to our east and west, and friendlies north and south. And if you look at where most of our food goes, it's keeping the people to our north and south very happy. Food insecurity roils the planet.
There are going to be populations that are going to not stay within their borders, and there's going to be governments that will begin to topple. In order for us to keep our friends in different continents happy, if we can export some of that excess produce or excess production to them, that will help placate their populations and provide a soft power diplomacy.
I kind of have to get too political on this one here. What does it mean? It's going to mean, well, there's 8 billion people on the planet today. Today, there's not enough food to feed all 8 billion people. And that's just a given using traditional conventional methods of production.
If you look at a country like Sri Lanka, they went and politically made a statement that they will no longer have anything other than organic non-GMO production. And within, it was less than a year, they went from an upper middle class country, by definition, everybody
person in the country was upper middle class to having the politicians swinging from lampposts everyone starved now the country's in receivership just because of a political dictate and if you look at what europe is doing with a lot of their standards too they're they're removing the ability for them to feed their own populations they're going to become dependent upon other people for food and that's
you know they're putting themselves in a weird position mexico's playing that that same way it's it's more of this this this dogma this mythology that genetically engineered food or gmo or anything like that which are scientifically we need them there there is no other way to to avoid that but i don't know it's a conundrum and again this is andrew thinking out here i think we've kind of reached the bounds of um upper ends of intelligence as a species you know we basically we're primates you know so maybe this is the the furthest that we can possibly go and it this is the next 18 months
months are going to be terrifying. With the Ukraine situation, they were very fortunate to get a grain corridor put up in the Black Sea. As you can see, they've been spending a lot of time on their aquatic drones and making sure that's secure. So they're able to get grain out more than we thought.
The issue was when they were doing it over land through Poland and the rest of Europe, all that glut of grain then drove prices down. So there was some reluctance to accept that grain coming across the borders. We'll see. It's not necessarily the food. It's the inputs. It's the fertilizers. And where are the precursors of those fertilizers coming from?
The majority are from Ukraine or Russia or China. So the next 18 months will be a little bit bumpy. I'll leave it at that before I get too dystopian.
One thing I do want to add to that, in terms of the heat and the environment and what's going on, there are some really interesting advances in genetics, both for proteins as well as for plants. I think it's probably common, we've developed a short-statured corn, which has a thicker stalk, same ear yield, but it resists a lot of those wind storms that come across the Iowa and Illinois and Indiana.
And Illinois came out with a strain of corn, I believe it was about two years ago, that requires 25% less water because now there's an abundance of carbon dioxide in the air that it can absorb. And it doesn't need all that water, but it hasn't evolved fast enough to reduce its water uptake. So through engineering, we're able to assist it in that function.
And I'm sure you've heard about the slick gene that we've got in the beef cows. So now we can have beef cows existing on a planet with an ambient temperature of 120 degrees. And I've heard rumors that dairy is not far behind on that one. So the piece there is making sure that we've got soy and other crops that can then feed the livestock that can exist on that planet as well.
So again, going back to science, because we're not going to be able to selectively breed ourselves out of the way of climate change. It's just not going to happen.
All right. Well, that's a bone with a lot of meat on it. So I'm going to pause here and think. One thing I do want to mention, too, for anyone who's listening who is in the agriculture sector, if something happens, please report it. There is an easy website called ic3.gov. You can report anonymously.
The government will use that information to both triage and identify trends, and it'll be a multi-agency response. If you file something and it's a low dollar amount, obviously the federal government has budgets. They need to justify the expense of going after something. But if you're
report it and someone else reports it and a third person reports it, all of a sudden the aggregated amount gets to a level where they can respond. So please report to ic3.gov, report on behalf of your friends, yourself, anonymously again. The FBI is there to catch criminals. They're not there to victim shame.
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