Andrew Rose (US)

We ran through the what if. What if the computers go down? What if there is an attack here? And Andrew, to your point, paper was the way that things are going to move around. The issue was there was no more paper because everything had been transferred to digital. And the people that knew how to use paper have either all retired or almost are retiring.

We ran through the what if. What if the computers go down? What if there is an attack here? And Andrew, to your point, paper was the way that things are going to move around. The issue was there was no more paper because everything had been transferred to digital. And the people that knew how to use paper have either all retired or almost are retiring.

so there was the human element of how do we move things as well as the the physical how do we record things as they're moving down the chain here we are going to meet in fargo on june 11th and part of that conversation is two years later where are we you know has have things been solved is there more communication between competitors we are bringing in the association heads as well so it's not just the companies it's the we won't call it oversight but the group that keeps them together and i think sometimes it's better to have them say hey this entire sector needs to function the way it should

so there was the human element of how do we move things as well as the the physical how do we record things as they're moving down the chain here we are going to meet in fargo on june 11th and part of that conversation is two years later where are we you know has have things been solved is there more communication between competitors we are bringing in the association heads as well so it's not just the companies it's the we won't call it oversight but the group that keeps them together and i think sometimes it's better to have them say hey this entire sector needs to function the way it should

And the other piece, Andrew, I'm going to talk about is the integrity of data. You mentioned that part there, too. This is public. Back when COVID hit and we were racing to get vaccines done, there was a cybersecurity incident with the calibration of the thermometers. And much of the vaccine was lost because of that attack. And it was an integrity of data.

And the other piece, Andrew, I'm going to talk about is the integrity of data. You mentioned that part there, too. This is public. Back when COVID hit and we were racing to get vaccines done, there was a cybersecurity incident with the calibration of the thermometers. And much of the vaccine was lost because of that attack. And it was an integrity of data.

The data readout looked good, but it wasn't. And it was done in such a way, in such a minor way, that would have been missed. And that's just another issue that, you know, Andrew, going back to the integrity of data is...

The data readout looked good, but it wasn't. And it was done in such a way, in such a minor way, that would have been missed. And that's just another issue that, you know, Andrew, going back to the integrity of data is...

Critical critic is otherwise, you know, if you're reading your screen or you're going to print a report, everything looks good and you can't figure out why things aren't matching up or correlated. And the last piece, too, and this is what I'm really excited about, is the social engineering piece of it.

Critical critic is otherwise, you know, if you're reading your screen or you're going to print a report, everything looks good and you can't figure out why things aren't matching up or correlated. And the last piece, too, and this is what I'm really excited about, is the social engineering piece of it.

You know, again, we spend so much money on blue team, red team, pen testing and all this stuff, which, yeah, you should patch your stuff. Things should be updated. There should be somebody watching over all your credentials. But social engineering, especially AI and enable social engineering is it's here.

You know, again, we spend so much money on blue team, red team, pen testing and all this stuff, which, yeah, you should patch your stuff. Things should be updated. There should be somebody watching over all your credentials. But social engineering, especially AI and enable social engineering is it's here.

I mean, we were warning about it 18 months ago, but now it's here full force and we are not prepared. I mean, the tsunami came in and we were still sitting on the beach with our lawn chairs.

I mean, we were warning about it 18 months ago, but now it's here full force and we are not prepared. I mean, the tsunami came in and we were still sitting on the beach with our lawn chairs.

Number one, you touched on is awareness. When you look at Maslow's hierarchy, I've been involved in this for eight years, and I can state with a fact that food, agriculture and water fight for last place in terms of resources from our government for protection. Yet absent water, you live three days. Absent food, you live for about three weeks.

Number one, you touched on is awareness. When you look at Maslow's hierarchy, I've been involved in this for eight years, and I can state with a fact that food, agriculture and water fight for last place in terms of resources from our government for protection. Yet absent water, you live three days. Absent food, you live for about three weeks.

You know, if your Internet goes down, the life's going to suck. But, you know, we got by in the 80s and it worked out right for us. You know, yeah, you take, and I mentioned this at a high level briefing, you know, if we go five days without food, you're going to break a law if your kid's hungry. And three weeks without food, that's the end of the government.

You know, if your Internet goes down, the life's going to suck. But, you know, we got by in the 80s and it worked out right for us. You know, yeah, you take, and I mentioned this at a high level briefing, you know, if we go five days without food, you're going to break a law if your kid's hungry. And three weeks without food, that's the end of the government.

I know some other people have a slightly shorter timeline than that, but I think I give our government three weeks without food before everything falls off. And back to the initial question that you asked, I think the real issue is that we generally, as a species, take our food for granted.

I know some other people have a slightly shorter timeline than that, but I think I give our government three weeks without food before everything falls off. And back to the initial question that you asked, I think the real issue is that we generally, as a species, take our food for granted.