Andrew Wilson

When you say duty... Yeah.

Can't you instill the ideas of duty and honor even absent legislation through propaganda, things like that?

Those are the routes that I would be more apt to move towards.

Well, that's because I think that this comes down a lot of times to being good faith.

I want to know your view.

And I truly believe that you want to know mine.

Yeah, we do.

And so the reason that this, what we just did right now, I guarantee you much of it's going to go viral and this type of thing isn't just because you have a huge channel and we both have big audiences.

But it's also because people just saw a discussion that seemed real.

Well, it was real.

And that it seemed like we were trying to get at each other's views.

Try to understand them.

And we're not killing each other.

Right.

So it's like, maybe we can start there.

Well, yeah, it's a fundamental dishonest.

Like I said at the very beginning, I hate the left.

And there is a fundamental dishonesty that comes with their anti-realism views on morality that makes me sick to my stomach.

And the thing is, it's like, look, maybe you don't get everything I want.

Maybe I get 30% or 20% of what I want.