Andrew Wilson

And it seems like you agree with my proposition then.

And the proposition is that

Marriage, quote, is a great institution and that right now your concern is that men can't be safe in marriage.

But that's not actually what you're saying.

You're not saying men can't be safe in marriage.

They can.

You're saying that they may not be safe in divorce.

So I have a counter proposition for you.

My counter proposition is, what if it's the case that you can use religious marriage institutions without the state?

And then we add the ecclesiastical structure of the marriage.

That's what always kept them together anyway, before the state was ever involved.

So what if instead we use the ecclesiastical church, the structure of the old churches, that would be,

Catholicism, and Orthodoxy, where you see the lowest divorce rates because the community puts pressure on the women to act right.

That's what they do.

Right now, the state applies no pressure on women to act right, right?

You can just go and file whatever you want, get a divorce, and go be banging the neighbor by the next night.

We totally agree on that.

But to say that we should abandon marriage is silly.

It seems like you're completely pro marriage.

You're just anti divorce.