André Duqum

Because, I mean, there's been some incredible mental health studies in the psychotherapeutic setting with ketamine or MDMA or assisted therapy with psychedelics and mushrooms.

Yeah.

And as somebody who's been dabbling for a while yourself, like how have you come to understand anxiety solvents and remedies for anxiety and our sort of mind's tendency to control reality before we like experience it through our body in a way?

So anyways, that shit.

When you've zoomed out like that, have you, have you come to like your own understanding of like kind of what this life is about?

Cause you see the absurdity of it, but do you also kind of see like,

Yeah, I'll just stop there.

What comes to mind?

Yeah, that's a great question.

How do you balance the understanding of that perspective where, like, this is an illusion of separation, consciousness is playing, duality and attachment is the system and how we're learning.

It's all an illusion.

It's the illusion we're here to play with.

like the deep pain of humanity.

And yeah.

That was great, dude.

I loved, I loved just sitting and being a listener.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thanks for hanging in there.

No, that was great.