André Duqum

I, it's, it's a complex and from a level of understanding can be also a simple understanding.

Yeah.

I thought of many things when you were sharing like the fundamental disposition to being like,

oriented towards service to self or service to others, I think is, like, they kind of put you on two fundamental paths.

One is, like, the era, the causal era of time, of entropy, which you, like, think inherently move towards chaos, versus entropy, or negentropy, where...

things have emergent complexity and coherence as they evolve over time, which is like two ways of being.

And I strive, like I think probably you do and most of our listeners for the latter.

There's something interesting about

In the study of what wisdom is from a psychological perspective, one aspect of it, which I think you'll like, is called perspectival metacognition.

So the ability to take on multiple perspectives at once.

A physicist, I think it was Niels Bohr or David Bohm, one of those, said the opposite of a fact is a falsehood, but the opposite of a profound truth may very well be another profound truth.

Oh, I like that.

I think that really gets to the heart of what you're speaking to.

Like from one level,

You can experience the deep pain of humanity and separation and division and what it's like to be undivided and have empathy for that.

And from another level of understanding, you can see how reality is completely whole.

It is singular and perfect from that understanding and that state.

And to be wise would be to honor both as realities, you know?

To, like, see the perfection and to see the reality of the separation.

Yes.