André Duqum

I think that's a consistent theme with people who have transpersonal experiences.

It's almost in a way, like I've heard you refer to the monolith and the space odyssey.

Robert Gilbert refers to, like, and I've also heard Joe Rogan, you know, refer to, like, these...

in these transpersonal experiences, having experience of sacred geometric figures that are imbued with meaning and love, you know?

And that there is something inherently interwoven with a level of beauty and intelligence that is beyond the level of comprehension we have the capacity for in a given moment.

But you can intuitively feel there's something really beautiful there.

And I mean, connecting the dots, looking backwards, whatever it was, it definitely set you down this route.

Yeah.

So, and then you had another one with Breathwork.

It's fascinating.

And I totally hear the argument of like, if this is such a widespread experience that so many people are having,

Why does everything look like it's filmed on a potato?

Why do we not have extremely compelling footage, given the widespread amount of phones and cameras?

What would be the strongest non-conspiratorial explanation for all these orb sightings and everything?

What is your like...

What is your best guess as to what's actually happening?

You said it's a conflation of all these probably different things.

But what is your most compelling, not to say you're fully convicted of, explanation of what's going on?

I think the sign of any intelligent human or system is a sort of appreciation of nuance and complexity when it comes to any subject, you know, and...

There's obviously just so many factors in a topic like this that is so widespread.