André Duqum

Mm-hmm.

i really love it because it just to me speaks exactly to this energy of effortless effort yeah that's right non-action action um and i think so many of us hear that and we yearn for it we see that some peop that is possible um and have yet to get clear on what that is for us yeah and so what are your thoughts around discerning

the things we say that we want that are actually fundamentally being drived by shoulds and somebody else's story that was indoctrinated in us to getting clear on what we actually love and like you said, would do whether or not you were being paid for it.

I think a lot of people haven't discovered that yet.

I think a lot of people feel the world is speeding up right now.

Yeah, boy.

Yeah, we're in a phase.

We are in a transformation.

Yeah.

And I know you obviously work with OpenAI, a lot of these various companies who are...

Yeah, some of the biggest organizations that are leading that rapid transformation.

And so you have eyes and ears in the rooms where a lot of these decisions are being made.

A lot of people can feel this rapid transformation.

It's hard to not feel at times like we're being left behind or that there's change or, you know, things we're missing out on, you know.

And I think that it's...

What it means to be human and like wisdom versus knowledge and information, like that distinction is going to be getting clearer and clearer.

But I'm curious, what are your observations about like what time we're in, like transforming in societally and how things feel like they're speeding up with our own individual process to not let it consume us and to like get clear in that process, if that makes sense.

I'm here.

I experienced that with one guest who came on the podcast.

So I could tell it was like doing a bit of that posturing.