André Duqum

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it opens up deeper into the rabbit hole of observing this time around the Manhattan project, how physics might have quietly forked one into nukes and computation and another one, uh, less potentially known into space time and gravity.

And so, uh, what, cause I know you love this topic and it's, and it's, uh, I love how you refer to it as a hedge, but it's, uh,

It's a fairly promising one when you look into the electrocarbitics and Townsend Brown.

So kind of just a high-level overview for people that don't know what could have potentially been happening at that time that could have led to where we are now.

So the potentially forking of physics into this behind-the-closed-door exploration of electrogravitics and antigravity, if that was the case, who...

Who do you think is likely pioneering, protecting the sort of physics, science, crafts, and where would they be located?

Maybe that's evident in this conversation.

Man, it's so fascinating.

And it definitely is an interesting rabbit hole to dive down.

It also still leaves a lot of room for explanation in terms of

The variance of ET species and abduction stories and psi phenomena and these crafts moving through intention.

And so I want to start diving a bit down that side of things now because...

I know your fascination with Diana Pesolkas were kind of, and in your also understanding of Thomas Aquinas' taxonomy of angels sort of reframes extraterrestrial life in a completely different way.

Like that they are not potentially beings from another star system that traveled here in the way that we think they would, but that are potentially interdimensional and that,

interact with consciousness in a way that we, like a monkey trying to understand quantum mechanics could potentially understand.

It's way beyond our level of comprehension.