Andy Greenwald

There's nothing particularly novel about it.

It's just executed at such a high level.

And I felt the same way throughout that episode where it's like, let us explore story in every corner of the world that we created.

Because also remember, it is a rare, rare opportunity for producers and TV makers to be told by a rich-pocketed benefactor like Apple, yeah, we want more.

So what could they have done with this?

Especially when the fact that the Russians' job in the narrative of the other show, For All Mankind, is established.

They're the antagonists.

They're the rabbit the greyhounds are chasing the whole time.

So it was kind of either plug and play or let's dive in and create rich, rich characters to make the show as much about them as possible.

And then just put them in conflict, see what happens.

And I'm struck by how effective and yeoman-like the show is and how satisfying that can be.

Yes.

Right.

They're going to fly back, and Arseny...

Yes.

English-accented English.

Well, I think that that's part of the reason why it's done this way.

Because it is a pretty quick, sneaky, empathy, you know, IED.

Because it's like, well, they're just like us.

Just like that Sting song.