Andy Johnson

major by not getting his second shot past the hole and having to contend with that severe false front.

It's like, if you can get it past, which is so counterintuitive, you know, most golf holes, you just learn long as dead.

And it's like, you push it past, then you're chipping right back up the hill.

You know, and it's actually much easier.

You don't have to contend with that false front.

So you've been caddying, and we'll get into the reverse in a second, but what led you from there to start what became this exhaustive book project?

Yeah, I mean, in a way, it's really the only course that has been around and evolved with technology, correct?

I find myself laughing.

There's a club in the States, Myopia Hunt Club, that hosted a number of US Opens in the 1800s, and they loved to talk in the early 1900s.

They loved to, you know, we had the highest scoring US Opens.

It's a dicey conversation.

Had a lot of those conversations last week at the Masters, and I think there's a lot of different opinions out there.

I think the old course is like the perfect example of what happens.

I always use this as a Chicagoan from the States, but if baseball hadn't regulated the bats...

You know, what would we say if it was like, you know what, it's too small of a field.

We can't play in Wrigley anymore or Fenway.

People would be outraged.

And it's kind of, you know, we're getting to that point with a lot of our venues, you know.

And, you know, definitely regulation and as your book illustrates, you know, distance and the changes to the old course are,

are heavily correlated and then the scoring reduction.