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Andy Kroll

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

We sure do.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

It's a real pleasure to be here.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

Russ Vogt believes that federal agencies are one of the chief reasons that, in his view, the American government has ceased to serve the American people and that it has become this rogue system.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

bureaucracy, where there are civil servants who are unelected and who have their own agendas.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

They, in his belief, ignore the president and carry out this plan, these policies, these rules and regulations that, again, in Russ Vogt's view, have become completely untethered from the will of the president and then the people who elected that president.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

And he wants to

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

to rip out as much of that bureaucracy as he possibly can.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

He calls it the deep state.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

He deeply believes that as he put it in a different part of that Tucker Carlson interview, that the bureaucracy in the American government hates, to use his term, the American people and has to be eliminated.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

It certainly would be a major break from how our three-part system of government has operated for quite a long time.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

And it would certainly be a break in terms of what the president is now doing as it relates to Congress from the plain text of the Constitution itself.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

What I'm talking about here is the Article I authority that Congress has, number one job that Congress has, the power of the purse.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

Pass the laws with funding to implement those laws.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

Article II.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

as anyone who has done a cursory read of the Constitution knows, says that the president must take care to implement those laws faithfully.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

Russ Vogt has a very different theory of this case.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

As he and President Trump and this administration have shown in the almost 10 months they've been in office, they believe that the president...

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

has vastly more power to defy Congress's will to block spending, to block programs approved by Congress, to essentially step on that Article I authority and really scramble the fundamental idea of separation of powers that, again, has governed this country for quite a long time.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

It's a very good question.

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The ‘Shadow President’ Dismantling The Government

I think it speaks to the degree to which the Republican Party today is so controlled by one man, the President of the United States right now, Donald Trump.

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