Andy Kroll

You need to come up with a way that makes that program feel wrong on a cultural level.

He comes up with this phrase, woke and weaponized.

Programs that have anything to do with diversity are too woke.

The Justice Department and the FBI are weaponized.

It becomes a very sticky talking point.

And I think it's a real inflection point for him where he brings together these two parts of his worldview and the larger MAGA agenda.

so that the public, or at least the president's followers, are along with him.

They support, they understand why we're going after clean energy funding, or why we're going after the community developmental financial institution, these wonky agencies that are now tagged as being too woke, or they're being weaponized.

He's talked about this in private settings, what that actually means that we are a Christian nation, because he very much believes that.

He has said that repeatedly.

He talks about it in a couple of ways.

For instance, he has argued that if we are a Christian nation, then our immigration system should reflect that.

And there should be more vetting of people who want to come to this country legally.

whether they believe Christianity or not.

He has said, why would we let someone into this country who, for instance, believes in Sharia law?

So that's one approach.

Who do we even let into the country?

He's also talked at great length about

Judeo-Christian values and teachings informing the work of people in public office, people who make policies, people who work not only in Congress, but also in the executive branch and in the bureaucracy.

How do you get policies that flow from Judeo-Christian worldviews?