Andy Lowery

What's the next step?

How do we make a better generation, a longer-range system?

Visionaries like Joe and the board and Grant and 8VC and Red Cell and stuff, they have this

you know, they're tapped into like 100 different people.

And in that sort of network, they juxtapose, I think, all of that information and all those inputs, and they come out with these enormously creative ideas that are brilliant.

And they knew Bomar, they knew Nathan Mintz from their history together, and went to them and said, hey, we're thinking about something along these lines.

Do you think we should take a risk and put the money, put the capital to work?

And at the time, the military had...

not thought of this as a good approach.

They thought the approach might not be successful.

So Joe set out and Grant set out to prove them all wrong.

And I think today we're sitting in a pretty good position.

Yeah, no shit.

I think the evidence is kind of self-apparent that we've proven them all wrong.

Well, Leonidas is a scalable product.

So it has these little elements that can be much bigger.

We can make much bigger antennas and have much more range where we have smaller ones.

And so the class of product we call Leonidas was the first thing that they started working on.

And the first one, it was actually a bunch of

huge antennas.