Andy Lowery

When you need a scale in mass, it's nice to partner with primes because they have mass.

And for example, General Dynamics Land Systems is a major, major partner to us.

And I had really never had a partnership quite as close as we are with GD.

And GD ends up being that sort of big brother to say, hey, do you have people in

the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Middle East and other places, because we do.

We have loads of people over there and we can help you scale when it comes time to scale versus trying to build everything from like new, like everything new and everything fresh.

Leverage what they're good at, scaling, mass production,

field support, all of those types of elements, and then keep the innovation and keep the stuff that these Neo Primes are doing really well, like Shield AI and all the rest of them that you named and more.

There's many, many more.

All of those companies are doing the innovation really, really well right now, in particular for these types of threats.

Yeah, cheap and innovative and quick and, you know, like death by a thousand cuts, as they say, right?

And everything is very distributed.

It's almost, it feels to me like if people know in the audience about cyber and like how cyber works, right?

If you look at Symantec and how it defends against these little Trojan viruses that get in and try to do harm to your system,

Those Trojans are like 110, 150, 200 lines of code.

They can be very, very small pieces of software.

But Symantec needs

millions or billions of lines of code, right, in order to defend against these little harassing software-type drones, if you will.

And if you look at the physical world now, we have that sort of like metaphor where the layered defense that we know in cyber defense and the swarms that you see in cyber attacks where you'll get

virus is coming in this way, virus is coming in this way.