Andy Masley

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Hard Fork · Australia Kicks Kids Off Social Media + Is the A.I. Water Issue Fake? + Hard Fork Wrapped · 12 Dec 2025 podcast

Like I'm definitely not coming in saying like, oh, data centers should always be built everywhere or whatever.

It's just that I do want the full number of tradeoffs to be considered.

And there are also potentially a lot of positives about the buildup for the energy system.

Like a lot of AI companies are, you know, committing to buy more like renewable energy as a proportion of their total energy than a lot of other industries and stuff like that.

So that could at least lead to like economies of scale in renewable energy.

And that might not cancel out the negative effects either.

I kind of just want people to be aware of the full picture here.

But yeah, I have to admit, I'm really agnostic about the future of AI and energy stuff.

And like this is a place where there are just so many unknown unknowns that it feels really hard to say anything concretely.

So my ask isn't that like we assume it's fine.

I just ask that like we weigh the pros and cons and consider the tradeoffs rather than just saying like,

oh, any new energy usage is bad or like if AI causes any new emissions, it must be bad because ultimately any new industry is going to come with some additional emissions.

I mean, not great, to be clear.

I think the general weird thing is I'm diving into this huge contentious debate about one of the largest new industrial buildouts ever, period, definitely in my lifetime, personally.

And so some weird allies are going to pop up.

And yeah, I'm not especially excited when people use this as a cudgel against environmentalists.

I definitely identify very strongly as an environmentalist.

I do really worry about anybody who's concerned about climate and the environment worrying at all about these really tiny levels of emissions in their day-to-day lives.

It makes me really sad, honestly.

I feel like back when I was in college, there was just a much stronger consensus that personal emissions are okay to worry about, but the main game, the main thing to worry about is the green energy build-out.

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