Andy Masley

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209 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 12 Dec

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Hard Fork · Australia Kicks Kids Off Social Media + Is the A.I. Water Issue Fake? + Hard Fork Wrapped · 12 Dec 2025 podcast

I think I've been going a little bit crazy by reading a lot of what I thought of as very bad coverage of the issue that left people less informed.

And like Hank's video is just phenomenal.

I thought like throughout it, I was like nodding along, thinking like, man, this is actually just going to give people such a better understanding

of water in America, like where AI fits into this.

It's weird for me to defend AI companies here.

I will say that for a while, there was a lot of demand from a lot of different places for AI companies to release data on the per prompt cost of chatbots.

And we're not being told the full picture here.

And now that they do that, people will be like, oh, well, this distracts from the industrial use and the total use.

And I'm like, well,

You know, like I would rather have this information about the individual prompts and we can look separately at the total amounts.

But like we kind of have to hold them to account for one thing at a time.

And here I think they've done an OK job, basically.

And then, yeah, there are a lot of like invisible costs, like the cost of training, which is a little bit nebulous.

And then the offsite cost and things like that.

I guess when Hank says things like that or when other people say things like we're not being given the full picture here, I usually want to clarify that if you actually dig into that full picture and try to draw error bars around what is the absolute most water this thing could be using, it still just never comes up to a point where I would personally worry about this adding to my personal water footprint at all.

And so like...

I did find one place I disagreed with Hank was more in his tone where he was just like hedging a ton and being like, oh, there are all these different complexities.

And I usually want to push people when they're doing that to say like, yeah, the complexities are real.

But I still want to acknowledge that we have this like reasonable range of uncertainty.

And within that range, like I'm just not finding a place where this is a serious concern on the individual level.

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