Andy McGrillin

not a rumor it's confirmed oh great okay may to may 13th that's a good thing it depends on how they do it man because um and yeah i don't trust that they'll do it well if i'm honest with you but if it's done well which means they do talk about everything um it is going to be chaos but i don't think it will be bad in the long run you know

It's not exactly like... Sorry.

I was just going to ask if you get the sense that there's a lot of motion behind the scenes, right?

It seems like there's so much smoke.

Every day.

And I agree with what you're saying.

There's also an ecosystem of news reporting around UFOs that does kind of come and go and wax and wane.

But even more than that, behind the scenes, it's like we have David Grush advising Congress.

He's on the task force now advising Burleson and Burchett.

And you've got Luna.

I mean, it seems like there's a group of...

members of Congress who are at least hip to what's going on enough to know when they're being, you know, lied to, or if they're being, you know, just told a bunch of nonsense.

Certainly Burchett seems that way to me.

Uh, do you think that'll have an impact?

yeah it's interesting right because we can look at it really positively and it's all opinion but David Grush I think generally seems to have the backing and support of the UFO community as a really credible guy and I personally think he is as well

And you would see him as an advisor and a consultant as a really positive thing.

But you've also got Eric Burleson on news channels with Stephen Greer beside him.

So I can't imagine David Krush and Stephen Greer provide the same counsel.

So you've got a Burleson being pulled left and right.

You've then got Danny Sheehan involved, it seems.