Andy McGrillin

It would feel like, oh shit, the Chinese are leading us into the next century.

This is it, okay.

And in a day, you would have people in the minds of the world, it would be like, well, America is a failed power, you know, kind of a mess.

The future is over here.

I feel like that's the kind of moment we're looking at.

I wonder...

And I've heard Andy talking about this on a show multiple times that it would have to come if it if it counts as disclosure, it would have to come from a government or the scientific community, like something from James Webb that I've heard Andy talking about for the longest time.

That would be something like that.

And it makes you think, though, that this guy, Grillmare, that's what he was doing.

Never going to happen.

What a clean page, clean sheet.

You don't think so?

Yeah.

Ever?

No.

I think the most credible way for it, because no matter what world leader does it, so whether it was Putin, Xi Jinping, or is it Xi Jinping?

Chinese did.

Or Trump did.

you're going to get questions either way.

I think if you had a scientific board standing, like nameless people we don't know of, head of this, head of that, head of astrophysics here, and they stand and say, James Webb Telescope, Pavel has heard us many times, we have detected undeniable signs of life 18 months ago.