Andy McGrillin

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3,021 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 8 Aug

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Yeah, and that changed everything for them.
And that caused some of these crimes to be committed against them.
So that's where they're at.
And if that means ripping the Band-Aid off or part of it, I mean, are those crimes going to go unanswered?
I don't think that people are going to be happy about that.
I think one of the big phrases I heard Dylan say again and again in Jesse's
interview is a little bit softer than sort of revenge it's restitution he used the word restitution more than anything else so it's making right what was wrong and that doesn't just mean punishing those that were uh that have been up to no good but it's also making whole the people and he's speaking from a whistleblower's perspective both him and matt have had their
lives effectively ruined.
And I heard the story about Dylan's, the clearance limbo that he's currently in as a result of bureaucracy is insane, because it means he can't get a job in what he's trained to do.
That's insane.
And it feels like anybody can really do that to another person under the current rules, which is kind of insane.
when you think about it, but it's just sort of like a legal loophole that they can use to attack people they don't want to talk about this sort of stuff.
So, yeah, I think the restitution argument is certainly on the other side of the whole these guys are heroes and blanket amnesty, like...
I don't think restitution is very compatible with that right now.
And certainly pulling the band-aid off is definitely not the same as Trump saying a one-line soft disclosure and not taking any questions.
I think they are definitely very different.
I don't know what other sort of conclusions did you get from Dylan's interview in particular?
Yeah.
Well, there's this weird exchange about who's actually in charge of the whole situation, which I think is maybe worth mentioning.
And we've got this clip pulled up here.
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