Andy McGrillin

Is that for me?

Didn't that happen in Colatus?

It's for all of us.

What do you think, Andy?

Do you have any thoughts on human mutilations?

um well i've always liked the idea when it came to cat not like the idea but with cattle mutilations it made sense that they were studying our food chain because cattle produce so much you know of what we eat and but then when you're mutilating humans it seems to be a lot more sinister that's when i would go a little bit more speculative and when folks talk about hybrid programs between us and them

and do we have huge triangular craft that we have developed with their help and you've got kind of black military uniformed guys kicking about with weird aliens yeah all the my lab stuff basically maybe that's where that would come in um otherwise it just seems they're more interested medically in the kind of sexual reproduction side of things

um so yeah they probably happen but that again that seems far far less common and sounds like a very human thing to do doesn't it because i imagine if our military if pete hexeth god bless him um cam guy that he has got hold of a triangle and was sent to a planet with these beings on it tomorrow and he took along some of his some of his guys for a party um i do love colin joe's impression of him and saturday night live and that's so good if if he took if he went along you would imagine

they would kidnap or abduct one of these beings and probably wouldn't do nice things to it 100% that's a very human way to look at it so either these things are just as nefarious or we're involved in that as well

Weird stuff.

There's a aspect of the hybrid program that I, I find very fascinating.

And it's one of the ones that it's a rabbit hole that I always wonder about it.

It's,

David Jacobs has always done... He always has the most interesting things to add to this conversation because there's so much detail in terms of what supposedly these abductees are being told or shown or what these beings are up to.

And there's one story that he tells in Walking Among Us, I think it is.

And he's like...

He's just talking about how weird it is to do hypnotic regressions with so many people.

And over time, doing it so many times, hearing the same stories over and over again that keep just repeating the same things.

And he's talking about how he's like, you would be surprised how many people

have a friend that they just always are around this friend that they know and they go everywhere you know they go to places they go to you know ball games and stuff they they have lunch together they just it's like a like a best friend type relationship but when you ask them how did you meet this person they have no idea they can't tell you they're like i don't know