Andy Stumpf

We spend a lot of time...

pecking back and forth at each other and fighting each other.

If you got sat down and be like, listen, we have a global issue now that everybody is impacted by this.

As much of the biggest swinging dick you think you are on this planet, guess what?

You're nothing in comparison to this.

I think it would have a net calming effect.

Maybe not instantaneously, but overall, I think that that would be the net effect of it.

Perhaps.

The real problem is, like all things, someone's going to take advantage of it.

But I think that if so, let's just say it is real, I think that's already happening.

Like the U.S., if that's real, the U.S.

is not the only country that has agreed not to disclose because it is to their benefit not to do so.

Like these things, Russia has a crash program.

I'm sure China does as well, too.

And I'm sure that everybody, to include the U.S., is trying to reverse engineer these things for our benefit as fast as humanly possible.

Yeah.

So...

I think if it is true, that is the case, and that's the Bob Lazar story.

There's a great documentary that's out now called S4 that's about Bob Lazar.

I had him on again for the second time.