Andy Stumpf

I can't speak in complete totality about this, so I'll speak broadly.

It's not a matter of a lack of resources.

Many, many people

law enforcement and those working in these, we'll call it, counselor advisor roles, a lot of them associated with 501 nonprofits, all of those things, they say the same thing, that some of the people are not interested in any of the services that are offered.

They don't care.

They know that the services are available.

They'll take advantage of them to the degree that they want to, but then they're right back doing whatever it is they were doing before.

And I get it.

It's tough to want more for somebody than they want for themselves.

And it's hard to imagine that somebody would rather live on the street or live in a completely chaos-filled life than work their way out of that.

But it is the reality.

And I think that's often forgotten.

Where I used to live in California, there is a homeless –

I don't know what's the word, problem, crisis, out of control evolution.

I mean, we're talking even where I was born and raised in Santa Cruz, haven't been back in a long time, but it's a temperate climate.

It's a permissive environment for people in that situation.

We're talking full on encampments.

And resources available if people didn't want to live in those encampments, but they exist.

It's tough for people to grasp that concept.

Regardless of how much you would want to help somebody, they may not want it.