Andy Stumpf

Tony Stewart jumps in sometimes.

I'm like, all right.

So who can I get that's going to be a ringer that no one's going to know about?

So I find John Buffett, winningest U.S.

rally driver of all time.

He was in the military.

So he's 86 years old.

Now, back in 2006 was the last time he raced.

And he was just going to go into this race because his son-in-law,

was winning second in the championship in the Canadian Rally Championship, and he needed a spacer.

Well, his son-in-law crashed out the first stage, so John Buffum, at like seven years old, goes out there and wins the event.

Just off the bench?

Off the bench, hadn't driven in seven years.

These guys... Holy cow.

I mean, so...

yeah this guy is he burns the candles from both ends and the center he's like i said mid 80s and he is the sharpest i'm here for it um military guy uh got like two weeks leave to go do uh the monaco uh wrc when he was over there back in you know this 50s or 60s or whatever it was um

So I've got this ringer that no one's going to know that I'm like, oh, I'm going to let him run last.

I'm like, I'll get him to the front.

Buff him.

I don't care how it is.