Andy Stumpf

But it takes time.

And that's what people don't want to see.

It's the overnight 10-year success, which...

Again, I'm sure you could point to somebody who has that.

And again, it's an outlier.

Cool.

Totally get it.

And two thumbs up for that person.

But for everybody who thinks they're going to replicate that, even by doing exactly the same things.

I think until you learn through at least a little bit of experience, it's hard to gauge where your line is.

Because for a while,

You just don't know what you don't know.

And maybe we live in a world where information is more accessible and so people can figure it out.

Like my middle son is an example.

It was fascinating watching my kids use the internet to bridge gaps in knowledge.

Going on to you, my middle son specifically started two businesses when he was in high school.

He started a window cleaning company called Peeping Tom's Windows.

Which, by the way, I came up with both of these names.

That was the only marketing help I had.

And he had a Christmas light company that was called Epstein's Lights because they're not going to hang themselves.