Andy Stumpf

And people, I probably would argue, they would say, I don't think those are our, maybe we could have this whole conversation around the ideals, but that's a subject for a different day.

And I'd rather do that with somebody sitting here.

So it could be, we could play a game of tennis with ideas and go back and forth.

The expression of those ideals, far from perfect.

Is our political system, in my opinion, teetering on a place of so corrupt that it may not be recoverable?

Yeah, that's what I think.

I'm definitely worried about it.

I'm watching people who clearly are using the political system for personal and professional gain.

And maybe that's been the case the entire time.

Um, you know, going from rags to riches, if you will, claiming to do it all legally while the rest of us are out there clawing as hard as we can legitimately playing inside of those boundaries and making progress.

But you're like, wow, that's at a way lower statistical level than this guy.

I thought we were all playing by the same rules.

We're not.

And I don't think we ever have been.

Um, it's okay.

If the United States is a lighthouse, which is what I want it to be, that's great.

A beacon of what's possible.

There's a reason why people are still flooding into this country and they want to leave where they are to come to where the United States is or the United States has influence.

I want us to be a lighthouse.

But don't forget that every lighthouse also throws a shadow.