Andy Stumpf

I'd rather have people fall a little bit short of that and be really happy about where they are.

But it's tough.

I mean, how can you be prescriptive with that?

That's a shitty fortune cookie, you know?

And again, I don't consider my, the people we're talking about, I mean, these are publicly facing people.

You could look at them and think that it's perfection.

And we have a little bit of social circle overlap and I've rubbed elbows with a couple of these people and kind of leave with the perception of, man, you have everything, but at what cost?

Money is an interesting aspect.

more seems to be the number of people are after, more than a number.

And I don't know what that looks like because if your number is never enough and you're constantly seeking and you never get to enjoy what you have via an experience as opposed to a thing that you're not gonna get to take with you anyway,

Doesn't more end up netting you less?

I was going to say at a certain level of money,

I've seen it undermine the connection because the person becomes wary of why does this person want to have a connection with me in the first place?

And they didn't come that way.

They got taken advantage of enough times that they developed that thought process.

I do agree with the stress.

I mean, if you can get to a place where you could outsource food or menial tasks that will give you more time to do the things that you are enriched by, yes, it 100% can help with that.

But, you know, the example you said, you know, a billionaire who probably feels helpless.

What?

You know, like those two things shouldn't go together in a sentence, but that's the reality.