Angela Poch
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard Sep 2024
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Hi, Lorna. Hi. Hi, Rhonda. Good to see you.
Sure. I mean, it's a big question because, of course, it's not a regulated profession and that is partially a downside and partially a benefit. And we can talk more about that. So it's hard to define it because you'll get different answers from different people. And of course, it also depends on the topics. And we're going to stick with team because that's what we're talking about here.
But it's somebody who guides someone toward a positive goal setting. So it might be maybe they want to find more happiness and joy. Maybe they want to implement healthier lifestyle habits. And as they focus on that forward goal, there's challenges that come up in trying to reach that goal. And we use the Team CBT model and tools to deal with those challenges.
And I will say a lot of therapists like Lorna and other people do use these kind of coaching, we'll say, tools to help support their clients along the way. So I actually have quite a few therapists who are moving toward coaching.
So they already have all the training, but they're finding that this modality of kind of forward thinking, which is already inherent in David's team philosophy, is very helpful.
Both. Yeah. Yeah. They're labeling themselves a coach, like even in their promotional material and so on and so forth. There just seems to be a different connotation to a client who comes to a coach than one who goes to a therapist. A lot of times when a client comes to a coach, they're kind of, I'll say partially motivated to get going already. There's something about that model of
They know they're coming to set a goal. They know they're coming to move forward and they're not expecting the coach to be an expert and psychoanalyze them and and deal with years of the past. So the language kind of lends itself to to maybe I guess the word is filter your clients to ones who want to get to work.
Yeah. You know, I think there's a conception out there that to dig deep into change and lasting meaningful change means unearthing some hidden cause when in fact the cause all along is what's going on in the here and now.
And you are actually dealing with the cause when you deal with the here and now and what, you know, the internal suffering that you're facing based on your own negative thinking toward yourself, talk toward yourself.
Yeah.
That is the danger of something being unregulated and unlicensed, right? Like it's just you have the door opens for charlatans, as David would say, right? Like people who want to make big bucks. And, you know, I won't say names like Tony Robinson because I don't want to get in trouble for saying those names. But you get kind of these gurus and they capitalize on the motivational.
Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, some of them mean well, some of them don't. I don't know. I don't know their motivations. I can't mind read, although I do sometimes attempt to do it at times. And I think that is one of the dangers. And it's one of the reasons, I mean, you know, that I'm trying to do, you know, a team CBT.
And I actually, instead of calling it team CBT, because that's too similar to therapy, calling it feeling great coach certification, to... Give them some ethical training, some boundaries training, help set up the outline of doing a good coaching session, encourage them to get more training and practice. But you're 100% right, Rhonda, I totally agree with you.
There are dangers in people kind of just thinking this worked for me, so it'll work for everyone. And they almost get dogmatic. Well, they don't almost. I've seen I've seen I've seen people get so dogmatic about a particular topic. And I know Lorna has, too, just from from knowing some of her stories and stuff. But they get really excited about one thing. And we see this, you know.
I'm trying to think of something not to offend anyone. I think of an example, I'll make up something, you know, like, you know, placebo X, drink this placebo X, because it cured me of my cancer, right? We see that all the time. And that comes up in coaching, too, both in mental health coaching and life coaching. So it is definitely one of the dangers and
And hopefully as people can become certified and I know FGI is willing to go to level three. So people are looking at coaching or if they're looking for a coach, there are coaches that do get certification. There are national programs. The ICF is an international Federation of coaching. They have intense supervision, like two. It's not as much as it's not as much as therapists.
Don't get me wrong, but it's, it's hundreds of hours of supervision. Um, so there are avenues. If you want to be an ethical coach, there are certainly avenues to guide you in that direction.
Yeah, it's a good question, Rhonda. And it can be sticky to navigate because therapists use coaching tools, as you've already pointed out. Like there are a lot of proactive, excellent, wonderful therapists who use Team CBT in a very proactive way, forward thinking. as well as actually helping people deal with past trauma and things. So they kind of do it all.
And I refer clients often to therapists or I tell my coaches to work with therapists. Where coaching can excel is actually for situations where you're working in conjunction with one. For example, one of the life coaches I know, he actually teaches nursing now as well. But he started off doing coaching and he worked for a doctor. The doctor hired him. He worked in the doctor's office.
He was on salary for the doctor. And he would help the clients implement the things the doctor said would be helpful for their health, whether that was mental health techniques or physical, like, you know, helping with their diabetes or heart disease.
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