Angela Poch

That is the danger of something being unregulated and unlicensed, right? Like it's just you have the door opens for charlatans, as David would say, right? Like people who want to make big bucks. And, you know, I won't say names like Tony Robinson because I don't want to get in trouble for saying those names. But you get kind of these gurus and they capitalize on the motivational.

That is the danger of something being unregulated and unlicensed, right? Like it's just you have the door opens for charlatans, as David would say, right? Like people who want to make big bucks. And, you know, I won't say names like Tony Robinson because I don't want to get in trouble for saying those names. But you get kind of these gurus and they capitalize on the motivational.

Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, some of them mean well, some of them don't. I don't know. I don't know their motivations. I can't mind read, although I do sometimes attempt to do it at times. And I think that is one of the dangers. And it's one of the reasons, I mean, you know, that I'm trying to do, you know, a team CBT.

Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, some of them mean well, some of them don't. I don't know. I don't know their motivations. I can't mind read, although I do sometimes attempt to do it at times. And I think that is one of the dangers. And it's one of the reasons, I mean, you know, that I'm trying to do, you know, a team CBT.

And I actually, instead of calling it team CBT, because that's too similar to therapy, calling it feeling great coach certification, to... Give them some ethical training, some boundaries training, help set up the outline of doing a good coaching session, encourage them to get more training and practice. But you're 100% right, Rhonda, I totally agree with you.

And I actually, instead of calling it team CBT, because that's too similar to therapy, calling it feeling great coach certification, to... Give them some ethical training, some boundaries training, help set up the outline of doing a good coaching session, encourage them to get more training and practice. But you're 100% right, Rhonda, I totally agree with you.

There are dangers in people kind of just thinking this worked for me, so it'll work for everyone. And they almost get dogmatic. Well, they don't almost. I've seen I've seen I've seen people get so dogmatic about a particular topic. And I know Lorna has, too, just from from knowing some of her stories and stuff. But they get really excited about one thing. And we see this, you know.

There are dangers in people kind of just thinking this worked for me, so it'll work for everyone. And they almost get dogmatic. Well, they don't almost. I've seen I've seen I've seen people get so dogmatic about a particular topic. And I know Lorna has, too, just from from knowing some of her stories and stuff. But they get really excited about one thing. And we see this, you know.

I'm trying to think of something not to offend anyone. I think of an example, I'll make up something, you know, like, you know, placebo X, drink this placebo X, because it cured me of my cancer, right? We see that all the time. And that comes up in coaching, too, both in mental health coaching and life coaching. So it is definitely one of the dangers and

I'm trying to think of something not to offend anyone. I think of an example, I'll make up something, you know, like, you know, placebo X, drink this placebo X, because it cured me of my cancer, right? We see that all the time. And that comes up in coaching, too, both in mental health coaching and life coaching. So it is definitely one of the dangers and

And hopefully as people can become certified and I know FGI is willing to go to level three. So people are looking at coaching or if they're looking for a coach, there are coaches that do get certification. There are national programs. The ICF is an international Federation of coaching. They have intense supervision, like two. It's not as much as it's not as much as therapists.

And hopefully as people can become certified and I know FGI is willing to go to level three. So people are looking at coaching or if they're looking for a coach, there are coaches that do get certification. There are national programs. The ICF is an international Federation of coaching. They have intense supervision, like two. It's not as much as it's not as much as therapists.

Don't get me wrong, but it's, it's hundreds of hours of supervision. Um, so there are avenues. If you want to be an ethical coach, there are certainly avenues to guide you in that direction.

Don't get me wrong, but it's, it's hundreds of hours of supervision. Um, so there are avenues. If you want to be an ethical coach, there are certainly avenues to guide you in that direction.

Yeah, it's a good question, Rhonda. And it can be sticky to navigate because therapists use coaching tools, as you've already pointed out. Like there are a lot of proactive, excellent, wonderful therapists who use Team CBT in a very proactive way, forward thinking. as well as actually helping people deal with past trauma and things. So they kind of do it all.

Yeah, it's a good question, Rhonda. And it can be sticky to navigate because therapists use coaching tools, as you've already pointed out. Like there are a lot of proactive, excellent, wonderful therapists who use Team CBT in a very proactive way, forward thinking. as well as actually helping people deal with past trauma and things. So they kind of do it all.

And I refer clients often to therapists or I tell my coaches to work with therapists. Where coaching can excel is actually for situations where you're working in conjunction with one. For example, one of the life coaches I know, he actually teaches nursing now as well. But he started off doing coaching and he worked for a doctor. The doctor hired him. He worked in the doctor's office.

And I refer clients often to therapists or I tell my coaches to work with therapists. Where coaching can excel is actually for situations where you're working in conjunction with one. For example, one of the life coaches I know, he actually teaches nursing now as well. But he started off doing coaching and he worked for a doctor. The doctor hired him. He worked in the doctor's office.

He was on salary for the doctor. And he would help the clients implement the things the doctor said would be helpful for their health, whether that was mental health techniques or physical, like, you know, helping with their diabetes or heart disease.

He was on salary for the doctor. And he would help the clients implement the things the doctor said would be helpful for their health, whether that was mental health techniques or physical, like, you know, helping with their diabetes or heart disease.