Angela Poch
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first heard Sep 2024
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And so he worked under the care of a doctor just to help the client step by step because the doctor's time was, like you say, especially if you're in the Bay Area, very expensive. And so coaches actually can work in conjunction with therapists to help give just maybe a weekly support system.
But in terms of Team CBT, I think it is a greater area for sure, because team is so structured and it is so much more like coaching. Like I studied coaching before I knew about Team CBT. And when I found David, I'm like, oh, this is like coaching. You know, like little steps are big feats is basically smart goals, which is what we teach and learn first thing.
That's the first thing you learn in coaching is a smart goal, which is very similar to a combination of little. It's a combination of the habit log kind of and little steps are big feats. But, I mean, David's stuff is so much better and superior, of course.
Yeah. So but yeah, it's, you know, certainly the language is different. The legal relationships are different for sure. You know, coaches, coaches can help their friends and their family and they're not there to to. Analyze the past or diagnose disorders. Certainly that is for therapist realm exclusively. And here in Canada, even I can't do that.
So like you have to have a special diagnostic certification program. You have to be either a psychiatrist or psychologist, which I'm not. So it's quite regulated in terms of what they do. We need school psychologists.
No, no, the therapy part. Oh, yeah. It's quite regulated. And we need those. We need school psychologists who can help diagnose kids so they can get funding for things. So it's a bit different. So, yeah, what makes coaches different? If they're a team CB therapist, you know, it's the language, it's the relationship.
We certainly talk about goal setting and moving toward having more happiness and joy and what's getting in the way of that. Well, my negative thinking is getting in the way of that. My self-defeating beliefs are getting in the way of that. And so that's kind of the focus rather than trying to talk about depression, anxiety, and how we're going to cure that or fix that or give you
treatment options for that. These are words we would never use in coaching.
any kind of psychosis emotional eating disorders we would avoid that as coaches although there are coaches that specialize in that but I personally would that would be cautionary I think Rhonda some of those people are ones that have had successes in their life and they're excited about it and they want to share but and some of them do have training don't get me wrong I don't want to be discouraging of maybe some of the coaches out there who've had extensive training but I
I would preserve that for qualified mental health professionals that have licensure and, and, um,
stick with so so i guess it kind of comes back to david you know i know you've mentioned and talked about this and it's something where like i really um resonated with you that how suffering is on a scale and it can get to the point where it's dysfunctional so you think of depression feelings of depression and down and blue they can get so dysfunctional that there's an extra layer of support needed and that of course would not be appropriate for coaching so coaches only work with
we would say highly functioning people. And they're suffering from everyday suffering. It's not a disorder that they have. It's that they're having these negative thoughts that making them feel miserable.
And that's an appropriate place for a coach to help someone sort through kind of this negative critical inner self-talk rather than dealing with someone who truly has a clinical disorder that definitely needs care from a professional. Anyways, I think I covered kind of. Yeah, that was beautifully said.
Sure. Well, first of all, the masterclass is sort of a follow-up to the coaching certification. So I have a Feeling Great certification program. Which people can take, I believe, I want to say it's about 20 hours of training material. Excuse me. But in addition, there's recommended that they take the practice groups. Joining one of the practice groups could be the Wednesday group with Rhonda.
Could be Tuesday group. Could be my Monday group. There's lots of great stuff out there. But they need to practice before they take a quiz. There's an online quiz. And then they have to do an oral exam. And to kind of show me that they've got a little bit of a handle on some of the team concepts as a coach.
And then once I do that, or if they already are a coach or a therapist, they can join the MasterCast mentoring program, which is a bi-monthly program where we meet how we have a live session, which is also recorded for people like Lorna, who can't come when it's in the middle of the night for her. So she can watch the recording, but then we have case consultation groups.
So the groups, they get together and, discuss cases and places that they're stuck. We do personal work, which is, I think, extremely important for both coaches and therapists to do their own personal work and apply all of these tools themselves. so they can see in real time, um, how effective they are, but also makes them a better, in my opinion, makes them a better clinician.
The more we deal with our own self-defeating beliefs, the more we implement death of the ego and, um, failing as fast as we can. And these key principles for ourselves, the better that helps our clients. Uh, so yeah. And, and then they have one-on-one sessions with me as well. So it's sort of a monthly subscription program. Um,
with training, case consultation groups, personal work groups, and then one-on-one sessions with me to help make sure they're going in the direction they want to go.
Yeah. So, you know, like I remember when I was just getting started as a therapist and I had to do they wanted us to do a self-care plan. And I don't know if you remember this, David, but I reached out to you and I asked you, what do you do, David, to deal with your self-care? Like when you've seen a bunch of clients and you're feeling emotionally burdened, what do you do for self-care?
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