Angela Rayner

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524 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 11 May

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Because at the moment, the psychology is that people are being really disadvantaged and it's having a perverse impact on their ability to go forward or even to choose to go to university.
Most kids now are competing for the top level apprenticeships.
They're avoiding university.
So the kids that never used to go to university, they're now competing with what would have been university kids because they're saying, actually, don't go to university.
Get yourself an apprenticeship because you'll start earning money straight away.
You'll get yourself a good job in a good industry and then you can fly.
So they're choosing not.
And that's having an impact on our world renowned universities.
my flat they asked me what my student loan was we were told we would never be asked yeah so and it's having an impact now even to this day and the other thing is that on the plan two kids from poorer families end up having to pay a lot more because and those that came up with the system have said that the plan two was never as it was envisaged so it's starting to have a real impact so i do think it's a conversation that we need to have and we need to actively i
But it's part of a wider conversation, I think, as well about how we create opportunities for jobs and how we protect and have a safety net.
Because I think the world of work is changing dramatically.
So we need people to look at lifelong education.
We need it to be, you know, an advancement for people.
that you could see tertiary education or apprenticeships as valuable as higher education, but that higher education has got value to it as well.
And therefore, that is a real sort of rewiring about how we see education, which is what I tried to do, plug again, when I was Shadow Education Secretary with the National Education Service.
And I think that we do need to look at cradle to grave, an education system that delivers for people, that encourages people to see education as a positive, that is not going to saddle them with a huge amount of debt, and that is going to deliver for the changing nature of work that we're going to have in the UK.
And that will help our economy going forward as well.
Otherwise, we're going to be choking off again.
the challenges we face because we're seeing that business will say, it's not my P&O, get rid of all these workers.
They're all then put onto the state.
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