Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

It was out.

He drove to the megachurch.

He drove to the megachurch with the family and the kids and the license plate said Spanky.

I think that's really common though, Pumps.

I think that instance where you have the white picket fence forward facing, we're not going to tell, we're not going to speak truths.

We're going to deny reality and we're going to project to the Joneses that we are this godly or this perfect or whatever family.

I think it's really common, especially in white families.

suburbia.

And then behind the scenes, you got a little spanker, you got a little crack.

A little spanker, a little crack.

You got this shit because people are broken.

People are broken.

And we project that we have to, we have this stupid give a shit that we care what other people think of our families instead of really living and being with our families.

So some people I think buy into this, well, everybody thinks we're a nice family instead of really being and enjoying and not giving a fuck what anybody else thinks, but literally enjoying and being a nice family.

And what other families think of your family is none of your fucking business.

That's their business.

But I think so many Americans, white, suburban, upper middle class get caught up into this if we have the appearance

of being a good family, then therefore we are a good family.

And it's bullshit.

It's just superficial bullshit.