Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Proud of that.

I mean, if I said you only see the world in black and white, if I said that to her, she'd be like, you're absolutely right.

You're damn right.

You're goddamn right I do.

I mean, she would be like, you're absolutely right.

So it's too painful.

I mean, I think it's probably too painful to go forward.

But I also think on her part it's too painful because if she opens that subject, she knows at this point in my life I will tell her and she does not want to hear that.

It's easier to be news rather than sports.

That's what I think.

On her end.

But you know, here's the thing I was thinking the other day, if one of my kids,

like got a job in the Trump administration, let's say went off and, and became like a, I don't know, a lackey at the white house.

And they just loved Trump.

I mean that, I don't, it would be so hard for me.

That would be the failure that I would feel the heartbreak that they were doing that it would be.

I would be so devastated.

That's what I'm saying.

I look at her and I think I kind of feel sorry for her because she thinks I'm the antichrist in every way.

Yeah, we are just full of fun.