Anita Arnon

I mean, do you have any theory as to why?

I mean, we talk about this in enormous detail with Lloyd in another podcast.

I'd love to know from you, because this is all, you know, the moment of crumbling.

When did the first signs of trouble start appearing?

Because, I mean, if you went to that Darbar, you'd think this is a man who's got it all sewn up.

But it's not.

So when do you see the first cracks appearing?

I mean, I found the thing in National Geographic, it was like 2013, where they went to the commoners' cemetery.

And they said that they found, I'll quote it to you because it's just astonishing, with all of that sort of bling going on in the royal court, the most stressed and disease ridden of ancient skeletons of Egypt that have been reported to date.

So Egypt, in fact, had never had it so bad as it had under Akhenaten's.

The commoners may have held onto their secret amulets and their eyes warding off the evil eye or whatever it is.

But what about the royal family?

Because you started talking about the deaths which preceded the collapse.

So what are the scenes in the tombs that go along with these deaths?

Can you describe them for us?

Willie, you dug up this really quite moving passage describing that tomb of Mechatartan.

Can you maybe share it?

Because you shared it with me earlier.

Can you share it now with the class and read it for us in your sonorous voice?

Is that all right?