Anita Arnon

Actually, towards the end of his life, Willie, he will express regret for what he did.

It will be one of those decisions that will bother him into the rest of his life.

What happens to Miranda, what should I tell you?

It's awful.

It's a pitiful, pitiful end.

He's taken into custody.

He's moved to a prison in Cadiz and he dies just a few years later, a broken, emaciated figure.

For a man who was celebrated as the great

Yeah.

I mean, he died considered a traitor to the cause by many and he died broken and far away from home.

Sad.

And we should talk about Bolivar because, you know, it's not safe for Bolivar to hang about now the Spanish have won.

So he has to get out and he's kind of lucky enough to escape arrest.

He doesn't go, you know, he hands Miranda over and he makes his getaway and he flees to Colombia.

And it's in Colombia that

in 1813 that he makes this decision that will define his military career and also stay in his legacy forever.

We talk about how complicated this man is because what he does is he says, this is going to be a war to the death.

It's an infamous decree from Bolivar.

It's

Any Spaniard who did not actively support the revolution would be executed, full stop.